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the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney supreme court would look like. here's what he said back in december during the primary debates. >> yes, roberts, thomas, alito, and scalia. >> those are four justices that are the most conservative on the bench. they all ruled against abortion rights, against equal pay, and for unlimited political donation for corporations. yes, this is not about who likes the president or not. sure he's likeable. this is not about all of the side bar issues. this is about what we fundamentally stand
the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney...
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with some confidence that they'll take the voting rights act case is because of the way the federal law works. if you get turned down by the federal government, the congress virtually requires the supreme court to hear those. i think it's likely they'll take up the voting rights challenge and the defense of marriage. >> pete williams, always good to see you. thanks. >> my pleasure. >>> the first day of the term prompts today's tweet of the day. luke johnson says john roberts is back from his island fortress. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. that make kids happy. and even fewer that ma moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate incre
with some confidence that they'll take the voting rights act case is because of the way the federal law works. if you get turned down by the federal government, the congress virtually requires the supreme court to hear those. i think it's likely they'll take up the voting rights challenge and the defense of marriage. >> pete williams, always good to see you. thanks. >> my pleasure. >>> the first day of the term prompts today's tweet of the day. luke johnson says john...
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let me ask you about the law that the state party filed this complaint with the secretary of state. what is the legal requirement now by the secretary of state's office? what kind of -- does it get moved to criminal action or is this sort of a state ethics investigation? >> i think at this stage, chuck, it's probably a state ethics investigation. the secretary of state's office will certainly look into it, try to make a fair determination of what's really going on here. but i think bigger picture is what the legislature has done here in florida and other states as it relates to early voting and voter suppression if you will. that's really the big problem we're facing coming up on this presidential election in just 30 or so days and it's effecting not only early voting in the early voting hours, but it's also affected voting by mail. what i mean by that is the only way somebody can validate who they are when they vote by mail and send that ballot in is by the signature that they utilize and making sure that that signature they sign matches the one at the supervisor of election office
let me ask you about the law that the state party filed this complaint with the secretary of state. what is the legal requirement now by the secretary of state's office? what kind of -- does it get moved to criminal action or is this sort of a state ethics investigation? >> i think at this stage, chuck, it's probably a state ethics investigation. the secretary of state's office will certainly look into it, try to make a fair determination of what's really going on here. but i think bigger...
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now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate debate tonight between scott brown and elizabeth warren. let's listen to that. >> who's your model supreme court justice? >> let me see here. that's a great question. i think justice scalia is a very good judge. justice kennedy. the i think they're very qualified people there. >> >> miss warren who would be your model supreme court justice. >> i think it would probably be elena kagan. >> jeff toobin, it seemed elizabeth warren got that right the first time. we saw scott brown move from left to right. >> it looked like he was sort of randomly picking names out of the sky. the justices who had absolutely nothin
now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate...
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law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the same workers, mitt romney said he would honor their temporary visas and allow the workers to say in the u.s. if he becomes president. this of course, is that executive order that the president signed. mitt romney had not said whether he was going to keep that order in place or rescind it. he says now, you can keep it in place. >>> one border patrol agent has been killed in a shooting near the mexico/arizona border. we're following that story. we'll get you more updates as we get them. >>> in today's deep dive, president
law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the...
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more recently allegations relating to an electoral scheme in arizona to allegedly violate election laws by running an independent expenditure campaign on behalf of an attorney general candidate there. i should point out that there have been no charges filed against mr. sproul or any of his companies, but they were concerned enough so that when sproul got hired in just this past june, he acknowledges that he set up a separate company under this name, strategic allied consulting, so that it wouldn't trace back to the other names that he's operated under, lincoln strategy group is the main one, and so it was clear that they were concerned, both he and the rnc, and he says, sproul told me that he did this at the request of the rnc. so there was clearly concern on both parties' part that some of these past controversies would get some attention if it was known that he was conducting this very major nationwide battleground registration effort on behalf of the rnc. >> because the rnc spends something like $3 million, they were operating in seven swing states. how wide do you expect this invest
more recently allegations relating to an electoral scheme in arizona to allegedly violate election laws by running an independent expenditure campaign on behalf of an attorney general candidate there. i should point out that there have been no charges filed against mr. sproul or any of his companies, but they were concerned enough so that when sproul got hired in just this past june, he acknowledges that he set up a separate company under this name, strategic allied consulting, so that it...
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. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> you would be a reliable ally when it came to his economic plan? on his economic plan, you said there's nobody better. >> i would also like to read the bills. a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> meanwhile, a new set of polls show this race is close. polling from mass i think has it close. 18% of massachusetts voters are still undecided. and that means senator brown's seat is still up for grabs. for more on this tonight, let's turn to felix arroyo. you were at the first debate and of course, at this one again tonight. watched thi
. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to...
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law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the republican party was shocked, perhaps it shouldn't have been. the firm is owned by a gop operative named nathan stroul sproul whose voter activities were investigated by the justice department though no charges filed. in a sign of people who want to legitimately exercise their right to vote, voters in ohio slept on the street overnight to be the first to cast their ballots when early voting began this morning in that state. joining us now is the host of politics nation, here on msnbc, the one, the only, reverend al sharpton. great to see you. >> glad to be here. >> let's talk about the pennsylvania
law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the...
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it's a struggle for the dignity that comes with freedom and opportunity and the right to live under laws of our own making. it's a struggle that's been unfolded under green banners in the streets of iran, in the public squares of tunisia and egypt and yemen and in the fights for liberty in iraq and afghanistan and libya. and now in syria. in short, it's a struggle between liberty and tyranny, justice and oppression, hope and despa despair. we've seen this struggle before. it is familiar to general george marshall. in his time, actions of world war was torn between democracy and despotism. we had leaders of courage and vision, both republicans and democrats, who knew that america had to support friends who shared our values and prevent today's crisis of tomorrow's conflicts. statesmen like marshall rallied the nation to rise to the responsibilities as the leader of the free world. we helped our friends to build and sustain free societies and free markets. we defended the friends and ourselves from our common enemies. we led. we led and though the path was long and uncertain, the thought o
it's a struggle for the dignity that comes with freedom and opportunity and the right to live under laws of our own making. it's a struggle that's been unfolded under green banners in the streets of iran, in the public squares of tunisia and egypt and yemen and in the fights for liberty in iraq and afghanistan and libya. and now in syria. in short, it's a struggle between liberty and tyranny, justice and oppression, hope and despa despair. we've seen this struggle before. it is familiar to...
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i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going to get this economy jump-started. we're going to open markets in trade in central and south america where we have real opportunities. but on the tax reform, i think it is important that he is pretty bold in his specifics in saying he is going to limit upper income people's ability to get all the deductions. but he is not going to do it on the middle class. i think he has been specific and i think that's just been kind of glossed over. >> let me fill in some blanks here. he has said he is going to get rid of the estate tax though and he has said that he is not going to raise the rate on nonincome from -- o
i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going...
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law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s there this ruling is an icing or cherry on top. i don't think they would have won the state regardless, less likely today. >> and when you look at the fact that early voting is starting in ohio, iowa, all these states already voting, how does that affect the way the candidates are spending their time and money? >> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks
law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s...
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i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there and doing the typical -- >> why does it seem like the right thing to do? >> well, it seems like the right thing to do for you, chris, but what is the fair share? what is the fair number that a warren buffett or a mitt romney or myself should pay? that's going to be at one end of the debate? but how do we get others in our economy who want to be taxpayers, who want to be taxpayers, those who lost their jobs under this administration, want to be back under the administration and pay their fair share, so let's get them the jobs to do that. >> i'm not sure that was a clear response. >> it was clear. it worked for me.
i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there...
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under a new law so-called conversion therapy will be banned for anyone under 18. california governor jerry brown issued a statement saying the therapies have quote, no basis in science or medicine. >>> a devastating new attack in afghanistan to talk about today. a suicide bomber killed 14 people including three american soldiers in the volatile eastern province of khost. it comes a day after the death toll in the 11-year-old war in afghanistan reached 2,000. but that number does not include the number of americans injured in afghanistan and who died when they were transferred elsewhere. which would then raise the total to over 2100. nbc news has special coverage today across the middle east. lester holt joins us live now at the afghan capital of kabul. that number 2,000 representing only americans who died in afghanistan not those who were injured in the country. but didn't die until they were transported wrels. that's a big distinction. this is a major marker to reach now with the number of casualties. >> it is. and we've been talking about a number over 2100 for
under a new law so-called conversion therapy will be banned for anyone under 18. california governor jerry brown issued a statement saying the therapies have quote, no basis in science or medicine. >>> a devastating new attack in afghanistan to talk about today. a suicide bomber killed 14 people including three american soldiers in the volatile eastern province of khost. it comes a day after the death toll in the 11-year-old war in afghanistan reached 2,000. but that number does not...
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>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afg
>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that...
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not for college, not for law school, and not to get hired for a job. i was listed in a directory as -- i listed myself as native american. i was listed there. it's part of who i am. >> do you consider yourself a minority? >> i consider myself as having a native american background. that's what i am. >> no one is questioning what her parents told her when she was younger. but when she was asked by the boston harold why is harvard touting her as a woman of color, she said she didn't know. then after five weeks of misleading the papers and the reporters, she said i self-reported. she's never answered why she did that. >> one notable line came when senator brown was interrupted when trying to explain why he voted against democrat-backed bills. >> she's misstating the facts. these are by democrats and republicans. if you're going to comment on my record, i would have at least -- excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay? thank you. >> okay. let's just stop there for a second. at the top of the show in our little teaser item
not for college, not for law school, and not to get hired for a job. i was listed in a directory as -- i listed myself as native american. i was listed there. it's part of who i am. >> do you consider yourself a minority? >> i consider myself as having a native american background. that's what i am. >> no one is questioning what her parents told her when she was younger. but when she was asked by the boston harold why is harvard touting her as a woman of color, she said she...
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sexually abused in that shower, he is trying to get some kind of protection under the whistleblower law. what's the latest there? >> yeah. he's suing penn state for $4 million because he thinks he was wrongfully terminated and didn't get the benefits he deserved and that he was treated improperly by the university. he reported up the chain, and we're talking about mike mcqueary, the former assistant coach, he reported to his svr, who was joe paterno who reported to their svrs. the argument from a lot of people, it's a very polarizing debate is at what point do you stop worrying about reporting to your supervisor and go straight to the police? >> mark brennan, thank you very much for reporting on the latest on what happened in that courtroom today. thank you. >>> up next, a "news nation" gut check. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yoel ellow, a menace to economy. >> this ad may be funny. is it making you think about romney's proposed cuts, or does it remind you of the president's debate performance? you can give us your gut on that, and you can join the "news nation" on facebook. we're at f
sexually abused in that shower, he is trying to get some kind of protection under the whistleblower law. what's the latest there? >> yeah. he's suing penn state for $4 million because he thinks he was wrongfully terminated and didn't get the benefits he deserved and that he was treated improperly by the university. he reported up the chain, and we're talking about mike mcqueary, the former assistant coach, he reported to his svr, who was joe paterno who reported to their svrs. the...
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law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready for their first face-off tomorrow night in colorado. doing the hefty lifting on the number two on the ticket and the candidates' wives. mitt romney is in denver where last night he tried to put the kibosh on predebate winning. >> people want to know who is going to win, who will make the biggest difference and scoring of winning and losing. in my view it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity f
law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania, in texas, and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vindication for the people of pennsylvania. who would have been disenfranchised by it. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting to keep from voting? >> well, we only need to look at the facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latino
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but that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care, it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that insurers, you've got to take everybody. now, that also means that you've got more customers. but when governor romney says that he'll replace it with something, but can't detail how it will be in fact replaced, and the reason he set up the system he did in massachusetts is because there isn't a better way of dealing with the preexisting conditions problem. it just remind me he says he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to replace dodd frank, wall street reform. but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obama care and assure all the g
but that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care, it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that insurers, you've got to take everybody. now, that also means that you've got more customers. but when governor romney says that he'll replace it with something, but can't...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania in taction and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vintcation for the people of pennsylvania. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting? >> well, we only need to look fe facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winning. >> bill clinton, who is very good at making things simple, as we know, he's done it again this summer, he said this
law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in...
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that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but an incorrect message to the voters right now. >> can you change that do you think?
that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but an incorrect message to the voters right now. >> can you change...
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the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want that you're going to have to have a certificate, birth certificate with a raised seal and three other forms of identification. well, that was a problem. so then the state said, okay, here is what we're going to do. we'll issue a new form of i.d. that's good only for voting, and they started to do that, but they said you could only get that if you couldn't qualify for the other forms. then they changed their mind on that. so what the judge finally said is, i think the state now has it about right, that it's easy to g
the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want...
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in venezuela with all the atrocities, the rule of law. my main disagreement with chavez is because he's been an accomplice of the colombia terrorist groups and i disagree with giving the opportunity to show up while everyone knows in colombia that chavez has been an accomplice here of terrorist groups. >> can i ask one other question? the kind of pressure you put on the terrorists in colombia, some americans are saying we need to do that in mexico, which is a country now threatened by drug cartels violence. what do you think about? could the colombian model work for mexico. the president of mexico has done very well. i am confident that the new president will commit himself. we call that determination. the new president recently. >> the book is "no lost causes," president alvaro uribe, thank you very much. it was an honor to have you on the show this morning. ahead this morning, a personal and revealing look back at reagan's west coast white house by president reagan's daughter. >>> and next, molly ringwald joins the table. you're watchin
in venezuela with all the atrocities, the rule of law. my main disagreement with chavez is because he's been an accomplice of the colombia terrorist groups and i disagree with giving the opportunity to show up while everyone knows in colombia that chavez has been an accomplice here of terrorist groups. >> can i ask one other question? the kind of pressure you put on the terrorists in colombia, some americans are saying we need to do that in mexico, which is a country now threatened by...
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romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
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covering those with preexisting conditions is not the same as obama's it's already what's mandated by law, which is again reassuring the rest of the conservative base, the guys we still got you. >> you make the right point. i cannot imagine that mitt romney -- mitt romney is going to get up in front of the big crowds of conservative base supporters and say remember the debate, how great i did, i guarantee he won't repeat a policy idea from that debate in front of those crowds. they are not going to cheer for the newly moderate mitt positions. he can be eraser man all he wants and scrub away -- >> if he moves up in the polls i think they will cheer. >> i think they care -- if it gets him percentage points in the polls i think he will. >> there are debates coming up. he can't skate by on talking points in front of rallies of his own supporters, he's going to get pressed on this stomach presumablybly in the next tw debates and will have to enunciate some details of what he does embrace in terms of obama care. >> compassion or conservative won two elections in this country, severely conservat
covering those with preexisting conditions is not the same as obama's it's already what's mandated by law, which is again reassuring the rest of the conservative base, the guys we still got you. >> you make the right point. i cannot imagine that mitt romney -- mitt romney is going to get up in front of the big crowds of conservative base supporters and say remember the debate, how great i did, i guarantee he won't repeat a policy idea from that debate in front of those crowds. they are...
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republicans are against equal pay by law. these are big differences. don't talk about big bird one more time. >> please don't talk about big bird. leave the bird alone. the fact of the -- >> the bird is already dead. >> okay. >> shrum. but i actually agree with you on this one, chris. i think absolutely. i have been saying for a long, long time for the romney team to go big, to put the bigger argument in play here, and i think -- >> he did that last week. it's time for obama to do it. >> that's exactly what he did. and so ynow is the time for the obama team to come to the table. show me how big -- >> i think there are big differences about women's rights, big difference about the role of government in saving american -- that's my point. come back on me if i'm wrong. i don't think arguing about medicare dos and don'ts and what's in and what's out -- he'll always win that. you know why? he's willing to say anything, romney, anything in a debate. how do you beat a guy who is willing to say anything, who knows it only matters when the camera is off. when h
republicans are against equal pay by law. these are big differences. don't talk about big bird one more time. >> please don't talk about big bird. leave the bird alone. the fact of the -- >> the bird is already dead. >> okay. >> shrum. but i actually agree with you on this one, chris. i think absolutely. i have been saying for a long, long time for the romney team to go big, to put the bigger argument in play here, and i think -- >> he did that last week. it's time...
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it's law that just makes sense. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. i knew it'd be tough on our retirement savings, especially in this economy. but with three kids, being home more really helped. man: so we went to fidelity. we talked about where we were and what we could do. we changed our plan and did something about our economy. now we know where to go for help if things change again. call or come in today to take control of your personal economy. get free one-on-one help from america's retirement leader. >>> 8:48 in the morning. brian sullivan is across the river. >> it is orange. >> virginia tech. >> orange. >> hokey tie to mourn my 2-2 season. >> i think you g
it's law that just makes sense. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. i...
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he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt who won the debate by putting the president on the defensive, spoke directly to voters and there was a moment or two of humor. will we see the same mitt on the trail for the past 16 months. you be the judge. here he is stopping by a colorado cpac meeting before leaving denver. >> last night i thought was a great fuopportunity for the american people to see two different visions for the country. i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cy
he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt...
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your favorite wednesday night shows like modern family, x factor and something called law and order are all preempted but you will take sports over a night of politics, right? who would want to watch two out of touch politicians answer questions when the tigers are playing the royals in ksansas city. you probably think the debates are really boring or you decided who you are voting for in may like normal people. what you need is a twitter buddy. what's a twitter buddy? it's a debate ambassador of sorts and it will save your life. pick a few. watching a live debate while following your favorite twitter personalities will make a wonky and depressing live puppet show super fun. good debate twitter buddies fit the following criteria. they let you know when to drink because that's important. and you need a list of words so you know when to do that. twel out word for word debate one-liners they deem important in case you can't tell. for you old folks this is like delayed closed captioning, helpful. post snarky insider sounding comments you won't understand like i bet henrik liked that one, or
your favorite wednesday night shows like modern family, x factor and something called law and order are all preempted but you will take sports over a night of politics, right? who would want to watch two out of touch politicians answer questions when the tigers are playing the royals in ksansas city. you probably think the debates are really boring or you decided who you are voting for in may like normal people. what you need is a twitter buddy. what's a twitter buddy? it's a debate ambassador...
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i teach at a law school. we can't adopt the program because thank goodness, colleges are not that segregated today. basically, the 10% programs viability is a race control alternative, only work in -- >> he works for a large university. works for a large state university. the 10% program as you point out was this attempt to try to honor diversity in the classroom with a new kind of policy. there's a new report out called better affirmative action by richard collenberg at the century foundation suggesting maybe what we need is socioeconomically-based affirmative action. is this the solution if fisher brings down affirmative action as we know it today? >> initially, doesn't have to be an either/or. very often when we see the cases cued up to the supreme court we're all counting votes before the arguments even happen. i think if we take ourselves back to michigan, everybody was saying that plan would not survive. everybody said that. almost everybody. >> who knew roberts would go for the health care reform. >> i
i teach at a law school. we can't adopt the program because thank goodness, colleges are not that segregated today. basically, the 10% programs viability is a race control alternative, only work in -- >> he works for a large university. works for a large state university. the 10% program as you point out was this attempt to try to honor diversity in the classroom with a new kind of policy. there's a new report out called better affirmative action by richard collenberg at the century...
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. >> i did the same thing for law school right through the stock market, was able to pay back everybody. >> if the president's re-elected, what are the chances that the american business community will think anew about him and be happy that he's re-elected and happy about -- and have confidence that he knows how to be a good pro-business? >> the answer would be because he goes to congress and comes up with a deal. if he comes up with a deal so we have some certainty about what our taxes are going to be and that there won't be massive layoffs from the federal government, he will be hailed as a hero because that's what people talk about, will it be oil or gas or clothing, apparel, retail. these retail executives say we are not getting the sales we'd like because everybody is worried about getting laid off because of this fiscal cliff. it's in the mindset. the president solved it, bingo. >> you just said the word. if i boil down the past four years of economic hardship why we're stalled from every businessperson i talk to at every level, from the small business, bagel owner at bagel heads
. >> i did the same thing for law school right through the stock market, was able to pay back everybody. >> if the president's re-elected, what are the chances that the american business community will think anew about him and be happy that he's re-elected and happy about -- and have confidence that he knows how to be a good pro-business? >> the answer would be because he goes to congress and comes up with a deal. if he comes up with a deal so we have some certainty about what...
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, it's massively, massively destructive, and yet it seems that after it all happens, we passed some laws, some stuff happens in the background and that's when the lobbyists come in and that's when all the people who can wield their supposed expertise has this powerful tool to destroy attempts to reign in the banks. if you're home watching and feel like we're throwing around terms, i'll explain them. this stuff is understandable, it really is. it's really, really vitally important. alexis. >> i wanted to mention that mitt romney says he wants more transparency, leverage limits. i was excited to hear that but i was confused. when people talk about transparency in relationship to the dodd-frank, it's about plus rules. plus execution facilities which are like exchanges where derivatives are supposed to get more transparency. the republicans in the house and the senate have been making themselves very busy trying to gut those rules. this is something i debated on the show. there's a couple of different bills. but what mitt romney said that he wants transparency, he's not consistent with what
, it's massively, massively destructive, and yet it seems that after it all happens, we passed some laws, some stuff happens in the background and that's when the lobbyists come in and that's when all the people who can wield their supposed expertise has this powerful tool to destroy attempts to reign in the banks. if you're home watching and feel like we're throwing around terms, i'll explain them. this stuff is understandable, it really is. it's really, really vitally important. alexis....